#31: Avoidance Is Expensive: The Hidden Value of Failure with Ed Latimore

In this raw and inspiring episode, Frank Lawton speaks with writer, boxer, and thinker Ed Latimore about the hard-won lessons that shaped his philosophy of life. From growing up in the projects to fighting professionally, from battling addiction to embracing fatherhood, Ed distills a lifetime of struggle and reflection into practical wisdom.

He shares why he gave up alcohol, how he learned to stop wasting time on the wrong people, and why relationships are “emergent properties” that can’t be reduced to their parts. Together, Frank and Ed explore the difference between being liked and being respected, why failure is essential training for success, and how boxing taught Ed to face fear, pain, and public judgment without flinching.

This conversation cuts through excuses, revealing a path grounded in responsibility, preparation, and resilience. Whether it’s building meaningful connections, confronting weakness, or cultivating order, Ed shows how to turn life’s hardest blows into the training ground for true strength.

Check out Ed's work ​here​: https://edlatimore.com/ And his new book, ​Hard Lessons from the Hurt Business​ here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0593716361

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